Women need to be told about the woman in Birmingham who was being robbed and pulled out a gun. 6. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the This article was amateurishly conceived and executed, even if only judging by the hit-piece commentary on the SCCY. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Thanks for your post. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. Super gun, works every time. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. This article was total BS. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. +1. I laughed when I got to the CM40. Or had a bad exp. Lol, I think he is a troll with other guns as well. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. That could happen with any gun someone didnt ,maintain and hadnt tested out at the range. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. Both nice guns, the Pico is the clear winner. At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. How is it possibly at the top of the list? For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. I would have bet the farm that the Ruger LCP was the worst small pistol ever created. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. the fact you just dont like it? He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. The CM9 is a great gun. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. Kahr CW 380. Its a joy to shoot. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. Well, youre in luck, because your fellow Americans have voted, and for some pocket guns, the results arent pretty . After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. Presenting statistics like this isnt representative of the actual quality of the product, but the opinion of those who voted. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. No problem with the SCCY at all. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. CM40 is my summe4 carry. Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. Because they werent reliable? Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. OMG! Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg Funny. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. The trigger reset does suck but its still a great gun. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. I doubt he even read the directions. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. He does not know how to use it. No thanks. This gun is selling better than ever years later. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. just kidding 32,490 views Aug 21, 2021 1.1K Dislike Share nutnfancy 852K subscribers Another ranting reviewoh man we do not like The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. The sccy is a great budget pistol. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. Also people need to fire them at the range. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. The Pico is a great gun. 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